me again would you have the time to help with another question still learning and trying to do more complex things i wanted to create a container or portal filed to list multiple items with the same po number but an unable to link the fields from the same dbase into a list by grouping report i am thinking i have to create a new database within the same file to get this to work is that correct or is there a simpler way thanks again hope i am not being too much of a pest