Help - I've got several objects on a layout which keep disappearing!

In the attached file, please look at the layout which automatically loads when you open the file, and click on the "Donations" tab. Then click on "Edit Layout" and look at that tab again.

Moving individual objects to the top of the tab makes them reappear. Any objects which are completely below a certain point on the layout completely disappear when you try browsing the layout normally! And this is true of labels, too - not just empty fields.

I've tried moving these objects to the front, grouping them and ungrouping them, replacing them with completely new ones, sleeping on it... Nothing helps. What am I doing wrong?

Thanks!

P.S. (off-topic): Fitch - if you're reading this and you look at the file, you'll also see how I'm trying to accomplish the different summaries I asked about in a different topic, partly inspired by your last post. I haven't replied to your post b/c I'm still experimenting...

Kollel_Database_Copy.fp7.zip

You have two copies of the Donations Readonly portal on that tab, one of which has no line thickness and is placed higher than the visible portal.

Edited July 28, 201015 yr by Guest

Thank you SO much!

I'm guessing you did a "select all" and saw the handles. Wish I would have thought of that...

No, actually, regular drags and command drag. Dragged around various chunks of the tab to see what was there. Upon seeing the handles, click to right of tab, command drag over spot where hidden handle was located.

Well, there's a new trick! Left me feeling stupid, but I just double-checked The Missing Manual (FMP10), and I don't find any mention of it. So thank you again.

This behavior has existed for probably the entire history of FileMaker; and it is documented in regular FileMaker help as well as many manuals. But the reference is brief, and easy to miss.

See layout mode help for object selection.

http://fmhelp.filemaker.com/fmphelp_10/en/html/keys_mac.28.10.html#1028220