Anatoli Posted March 5, 2003 Author Posted March 5, 2003 The Disk 0 is strange. But the rest is possibly OK. Maybe there is not lot of traffic.
Anatoli Posted March 19, 2003 Author Posted March 19, 2003 Slightly improved last numbers: Disk: 9726 KB/sec Network: 2823 KB/sec Transactions: 6559
Arin Posted May 6, 2003 Posted May 6, 2003 Here's info from our recently setup 200Mhz PII running RedHat Linux 7.3 / 96 Megs Ram / 1Gig IDE & 3 Gig SCSI - using server 5.5 with cache set at 8 Megs (all info is peak info) ______________________ Disk KB/sec - 4652 Files - 26 Users - 4 Network KB/Sec - 2640 Transactions - 5600 ______________________ After using FM Server on Mac OS X (G3s & G4s) and OS 9 I'm happiest with the performance / stability / price that linux offers. We may be upgrading to a 2Gig P4... if so I'll post those stats as well.
Anatoli Posted May 6, 2003 Author Posted May 6, 2003 That is GREAT! I am glad, that FM server on Linux is soooo good. FM probably hired someone clever to do Linux version of FM server as they did with Windows server version.
Arin Posted May 9, 2003 Posted May 9, 2003 Here's updated info after 4 days of uptime... still using the 200Mhz PII... still no crashes... ______________________ Disk KB/sec - 7384 Files - 26 Users - 4 Network KB/Sec - 2640 Transactions - 11160 ______________________ (did I mention that with linux you can 'reload' the preferences (conf file) from the CLI WITHOUT having to restart FMS and kick everyone off!)
Anatoli Posted May 10, 2003 Author Posted May 10, 2003 Excellent! If FM did the statistics correctly, it is insanely great { Steve Jobs} result from PII. It shows how bloated GUI systems sucks as servers, Mac or Windows!
Anatoli Posted May 24, 2003 Author Posted May 24, 2003 In what way? I guess transactions will have some demand on storage and on network. Without transactions there will not be high numbers in rest of categories.
AudioFreak Posted June 23, 2003 Posted June 23, 2003 We recently purchased the New Millennium Filemaker server. Seems to be fine after 1 week. Here are the numbers. All numbers are peak. Disk KB/sec 4512 Files 16 Guests 10 Network KB/sec 3096 Transactions 20740 Good or bad? Michael
Anatoli Posted June 24, 2003 Author Posted June 24, 2003 I think it is excellent result! Although the Number of Transactions seems to me a bit of optimistic on Linux machines. Is that Linux?
AudioFreak Posted June 24, 2003 Posted June 24, 2003 Anatoli, Yes it is running Linux v7.2. I agree with the transactions being a little off. Especially considering the average was around 600 if I remember correctly. Nice to know the numbers are pretty good. Michael
Anatoli Posted June 24, 2003 Author Posted June 24, 2003 Real test will be to have Windows and Linux servers next to each other for the same network testing. But I am very impressed by Linux boxes. They are not something special in HW configuration. My server was build with single condition: fastest and most reliable. Money where no object.
AudioFreak Posted June 27, 2003 Posted June 27, 2003 I would like to add a little more to this subject by request. The files that are being hosted by Fm Server perform much faster then when opened directly on client computer and being the only user. This is something that I was not expecting but am very happy to see. Not exactly sure why but I'm not going to complain. Calculations and finds perform much faster then normal. Normaly when performing a find which finds say 6000 records would basically fill the screen down slowly. With Fm server hosting the files, the found set displays instantly. A fair comparison would be DSL to dial up opening a web page with lots of graphics. Can anyone here explain why? Michael
Anatoli Posted June 27, 2003 Author Posted June 27, 2003 I was trying explain that to "bosses" here 2 years ago also, but they wouldn't buy my idea. They said it cannot be possible. Local access is local access. Now it is independently confirmed On good operating system software, like Linux or Windows the speed difference is very visible. TCP/IP network is 2-3 times faster, then Mac TCP. The FM server is also faster and it is pushing data at greater rate, than local access to drive. Also FM client and CPU is only getting and displaying the data and copying data to local Temp file, without any other work. That is fast. Local FM access must send the request to OS, OS must ask disk to find the data, data are transferred to memory, stored in Temp file, calculated and displayed and everything is handled by single CPU.
AudioFreak Posted July 23, 2003 Posted July 23, 2003 Here are the latest numbers from our Linux box. All are peak. Disk KB/sec 10920 Files 16 Guests 9 Network KB/sec 4208 Transactions 32767 I have noticed through this thread that there are other servers with the exact same number of transactions. any one have any idea why? Michael
Anatoli Posted July 24, 2003 Author Posted July 24, 2003 That looks suspicious, doesn't it? If it is enough fast for users, then all is OK
Newbies C Higham Posted July 28, 2003 Newbies Posted July 28, 2003 Right, running a Dual Xeon 1.8 processors on Debian with a 2.4.20 kernel (none of this out of date redhat rubbish for me!) Peak Values: Disk: 32767 (that same figure again...) Files: 117 Network: 20252 Transactions: 32767 (again!) Chris.
Anatoli Posted July 28, 2003 Author Posted July 28, 2003 IMHO -- FMS doesn't work on 2 processors. Maybe v. 7?
Newbies C Higham Posted July 29, 2003 Newbies Posted July 29, 2003 Indeed, if you look at the server stats: Linux 2.4.20 (database) 07/29/03 08:17:30 CPU %user %nice %system %idle intr/s 08:17:30 all 0.24 0.00 0.40 99.36 334.10 08:17:30 0 0.28 0.00 0.66 99.05 334.10 08:17:30 1 0.20 0.00 0.31 99.50 334.10 08:17:30 2 0.28 0.00 0.37 99.35 334.10 08:17:30 3 0.20 0.00 0.27 99.53 334.10 CPU 0 seems to be doing most of the work, if you'd call it that I suspect it still benefits from a multiprocessor system since the other processors will deal with other system tasks, given the CPU useage though I think it might be overkill for the current use it gets (although no-one has really logged on yet).
Anatoli Posted July 29, 2003 Author Posted July 29, 2003 I have feeling, that 2-nd processor will be used up to 5-10% only. But you can probably run something in parallel with FM
AudioFreak Posted August 4, 2003 Posted August 4, 2003 Well our server went down and we had to move the files to a mac laptop., Here are the numbers. Disk KB/sec 636 Files 16 Guests 5 Network KB/sec 99 Transactions 550 Big difference compared to the Linux server. But will have to do for now.
Anatoli Posted August 4, 2003 Author Posted August 4, 2003 Do I recall from other thread something to do with disk(s)?
AudioFreak Posted August 4, 2003 Posted August 4, 2003 Anatoli, Actually our server was hacked and being used to ping other IP"s. But at least we managed to pull our files before any real damage was done. Michael
Anatoli Posted August 5, 2003 Author Posted August 5, 2003 I am sorry to hear that. It looks like Linux or Windows are easily hackable We have all FM Windows servers behind firewalls. Is there known Mac OS or OS X case of successful attack?
BobWeaver Posted August 8, 2003 Posted August 8, 2003 Anatoli, what do you mean by a successful attack on Mac OS servers? If they are not behind a firewall (or even behind a filewall with port 5003 open), then all of the Filemaker databases are completely vulnerable. If you were to give me the IP address of a server I could wipe out all the files on it in seconds whether it is Mac, Linux or Windows. 1. Run my FMScanner application which reads the names of all the files on the server at the selected IP address. 2. Select one of the files, and all of its passwords are displayed. (See the attached screen shot.) 3. Run FileMaker Pro and log in to the file using the full access password obtained in step 2. 4. Delete all records. 5. Repeat the above steps for all files on the server. This is why FM server should only be accessible through VPN or some other secure socket type thing.
Anatoli Posted August 8, 2003 Author Posted August 8, 2003 I do agree!!!!!! That my question was quite of topic, sorry. Nothing to do with FM or FMS. I was just curious about platform security, that's all. We do use the VPN only!
ernst Posted August 9, 2003 Posted August 9, 2003 Hey Bob, I hope your 'FMScanner' application is NOT available for other people then yourself? Ernst.
BobWeaver Posted August 10, 2003 Posted August 10, 2003 Don't worry, I just created FMScanner to demonstrate the insecurity of running FM Server on a publicly accessible network (and ...umm... to impress the girls). There is only one copy and it's not going anywhere. But, it is only slightly less convenient to do the same thing with readily available network traffic analysis software. So, just because my program isn't available, FM Server is still very vulnerable to attack.
Anatoli Posted August 10, 2003 Author Posted August 10, 2003 RE: FM Server is still very vulnerable to attack. I'll say everything from FMI is very vulnerable to attack. IMHO -- FMI has last chance with new version, let's hope it will be 7 and it will be soon. RE: to impress the girls I see, that is strong motivation Because of that I use to be a Rock Star and producer... How easy is that these days for computer geeks
ernst Posted August 10, 2003 Posted August 10, 2003 Hey Bob, Well , I'm certainly impressed, but not a girl. Sorry regards, Ernst.
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