Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
Michael Flynn

To go with FMP or not - Help me decide

Recommended Posts

Unless you need customization, I would recommend QuickBooks Premier Non-Profit Edition. Why reinvent the wheel?

On the other hand, it's very easy to create summarized list reports in FMP (I've read about 4th Dimension, but haven't used it). Just define whatever summary fields you want and put them in the subsummary parts of your report layout. Just be sure to sort by the corresponding fields before running the reports.

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

You might take a look at the FileMaker web site's non-profit section:


4D is a good application. I like the some of the user interface capabilities. It's somewhat more expensive than FM, has a much smaller installed base, a smaller developer community, and, of course, no web site that compares to the 20,000+ members of FM Forums (shameless plug). They have an awesome technology plan for FM and the revenues to make it happen (I'm guessing, currently over $150M in sales a year). New FM user's groups are starting at a rate of about one per month, something unheard of, as computer user's groups have been in decline for about half a decade.

I'd check out the 4D forums and see how they feel, the time to respond to your questions, etc.


Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

I could be wrong but I don't think intuit sells a version of non-profit edition for the mac. Secondly, I think quicken doesn't handle fund accounting but uses classes. If that is the case its kind of a kludge and finally the reports that quickbook provides really don't suite our needs.

I haven't figured out yet how to create summary fields, I'm still getting a feel for the application. FMP has some definate advantages over 4d and vice versa. I'm having trouble figuring out which one.

Anyways these summary fields, how hard is it to create a cross-tab report.


Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

4D 2004 has a great interface. I like the way their report writer is setup, and overall its a nice application. One weird thing which I definitely don't like is, that after you define a field on a table you cannot remove it. I'm sorry but that doesn't cut it.

The company that produces 4d sells its application for dramatically less then street, much cheaper then FMP. Even though that's a great point in 4d's favor, its not the point driving my decision.

Both FMP and 4d have things that I really like in how they work and things that I don't like.

You also mentioned something that has been nagging me in the background and that's 4d's long term viability. Filemaker is pretty well established and I'm pretty sure it will be there for the long haul (though anyhting can happen). I have no idea about their forums.

I'm very pleased to see such a quick response to my questions here smile.gif



Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

  • Similar Content

    • By Tony Morosco
      I'm a botanist, and the tables I am working with are for tracking botanical garden collections. The data represents plants in the garden, and the plants are tagged and show up in the database.  The tables I am working with were created in FMP 7, and I'd like to open them up in FMP 11 (or later.)  The system hasn't been used in years, but still has valuable information.
      One of the tables is giving me problems using the FMP convert and recover commands.
      These tables are all inter-related.  The main table is the Accessions table, which contains records for all of one kind of plant, from the same source, received on the same date.  It is basically a museum standard.
      The other tables are related to each other through this one main table.  The Species table is related to the locations table through the Accessions table. 
      (i.e.  table A relates to table C through the table B, the intermediary)  
      From the Locations table, we can't see the the species information unless the accessions table is present.
      When issuing the open command on the main table to convert the database to FMP 11, I get the message:
      "Accessions.fmp7" is damaged and cannot be opened.  Use the Recover command to recover this file. When using the Recover command from v. 11, I get another message:
      WARNING: problems were detected while recovering the database.  Please review the Recover.log file to see where problems were found and their severity.  The recovered file should NOT be used going forward; copy only the most recent work from it into a backup copy of the original file. Recovery results:   File blocks: scanned and rebuilt 563 blocks, dropped 214 invalid data blocks.   Schema: scanned fields and tables, 1 items modified   Structure: scanned; 1 items modified   Field indexes: rebuilt  
      Opening the recovered database, there are only three records present.  There should be hundreds.  So obviously I am looking on how to wrangle this database open.
      I've attached the log file here, as well as the database structure map.  
      The other files have converted just fine.  But since the main table won't open, we are kind of stuck.
      I can share the files with you through Dropbox or whatever, if needed.
      Please let me know any thoughts you have, either basic or advanced.  And ask for any clarifications or additional questions.   :-)  

    • By Tumma K
      Hello, All!

      I am an aspiring developer for Filemaker. The company I work with is stuck in the past working off of Filemaker Pro 4.1

      I was given the task of bringing us up to Filemaker Pro/Server 13. So far my conversion prototypes are successful but we recently had a layout issue that can only be fixed in versions 3-6 (as the file is an .fp3) I work off of a macbook while our network is all Windows 7. In order for me to repair the layouts without tampering our active database, I decided the best option is to repair a copy of our solutions off the network. Unfortunately, when I go to download the trial version of Filemaker Pro 6 off of the respected website, the file is corrupt! I've tried multiple times, with different extraction apps and in different directories.

      My question is;

      Does anyone know a place where I could obtain version 6 (or better yet, 4.0) for an OSX computer? I've looked everywhere!
      Thank you for your time,
      Tumma K.
    • By MrEddByrnes
      I'm hoping my question can have a happy ending. In the mid-90's, I purchased Filemaker 3. When Filemaker 5.5 Pro was released, I bought the update CD, which requires the user to either have FM 3 installed or to have the installation CD for FM 3. I've used it all these years, most recently with Windows XP Pro, and it has worked just fine. The databases I began with were long ago converted to FM Pro 5.5 databases.
      I'm still using FM Pro 5.5 on a laptop with WinXP Pro, but in 2013, I purchased a PC with Windows 8. I haven't been able to install FM 3 on it, therefore can't install FM Pro 5.5. I am retired and rarely use Filemaker, but I have a few Filemaker databases I'd like to add to my Win 8 machine. I don't feel it's worth upgrading FM for the sake of using a couple of databases.
      Has anyone else run into this situation and/or have a (possible) solution? Is there perhaps any other software that can read FM 5.5 databases? Thanks in advance for your help.
    • By bmill
      I am using a custom filemaker solution for medical office billing written with fp5 running on a mac with snow leopard. In addition, I have a patient management db (which I wrote) that is linked through pt. ID number to the billing program allowing transfer of some demographic information (name, DOB, etc).
      Other than being limited by hardware restrictions, the billing program serves our needs for now and upgrading to fp12 will take some time (and money).  In the meantime, I am upgrading my pt. management program to fp13 and would like to move new patient demographic information from the billing program ( fp5 running on snow leopard through Parallels) and the new pt management program ( fp13 running on OS X 10.9) on the same mac.   
      Ideally, demographic information would be entered once into fp5 and then a scipt would make the data available for fp13.
      Any ideas on how to make this work?
    • By randyinla
      Hi, can anyone tell me why my on-line database might have stopped allowing me to delete records?  All of my access privileges and passwords are correct.

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.