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Go To Layout [ ] difficult!

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Hi Everyone,

When writing a script and selecting Go To Layout [ ] and then selecting from the SMALL popup, is there a quick way to jump by beginning letter? Scrolling works but I have 110 layouts (is that a lot?) and my index finger is taking a toll (from repeated scrolling)?

I'm hoping someone has discovered a shortcut command (for Windows). [CTRL] and 'Alpha' doesn't work; neither does any other combination I can think of. crazy.gif

LaRetta

Hi Everyone,

When writing a script and selecting Go To Layout [ ] and then selecting from the SMALL popup, is there a quick way to jump by beginning letter? Scrolling works but I have 110 layouts (is that a lot?) and my index finger is taking a toll (from repeated scrolling)?

I'm hoping someone has discovered a shortcut command (for Windows). [CTRL] and 'Alpha' doesn't work; neither does any other combination I can think of. crazy.gif

LaRetta

  • Author

Hi Everyone,

When writing a script and selecting Go To Layout [ ] and then selecting from the SMALL popup, is there a quick way to jump by beginning letter? Scrolling works but I have 110 layouts (is that a lot?) and my index finger is taking a toll (from repeated scrolling)?

I'm hoping someone has discovered a shortcut command (for Windows). [CTRL] and 'Alpha' doesn't work; neither does any other combination I can think of. crazy.gif

LaRetta

  • Author

I should mention I'm also looking to hire a high-school kid to drag (individually) every one of my scripts into their proper order. crazy.gif It will take hours.

They are pretty-much categorized and grouped (Contacts, Products, Invoicing etc) but totally out of sequence. From now on when starting a new solution, I will duplicate an existing script so it appears directly under the prior (instead of the bottom, starting a new one) so they remain in proper sequence.

The same applies to layouts. I'll have this person move them for me - one at a time. A no-brainer but takes forever DRAGGGGGING things around!! And Windows drags SLOWLY! grin.gif

LaRetta

  • Author

I should mention I'm also looking to hire a high-school kid to drag (individually) every one of my scripts into their proper order. crazy.gif It will take hours.

They are pretty-much categorized and grouped (Contacts, Products, Invoicing etc) but totally out of sequence. From now on when starting a new solution, I will duplicate an existing script so it appears directly under the prior (instead of the bottom, starting a new one) so they remain in proper sequence.

The same applies to layouts. I'll have this person move them for me - one at a time. A no-brainer but takes forever DRAGGGGGING things around!! And Windows drags SLOWLY! grin.gif

LaRetta

  • Author

I should mention I'm also looking to hire a high-school kid to drag (individually) every one of my scripts into their proper order. crazy.gif It will take hours.

They are pretty-much categorized and grouped (Contacts, Products, Invoicing etc) but totally out of sequence. From now on when starting a new solution, I will duplicate an existing script so it appears directly under the prior (instead of the bottom, starting a new one) so they remain in proper sequence.

The same applies to layouts. I'll have this person move them for me - one at a time. A no-brainer but takes forever DRAGGGGGING things around!! And Windows drags SLOWLY! grin.gif

LaRetta

Mmmm, one of the big interface differences between MacOS and Windows is the way menus and lists are displayed. On Windows, it seems to show 8 (or so) then makes you drag a scroll bar to view the rest. MacOS usually expands to show as many as it can, and will scroll by dragging to the end of the list.

Much faster, but requires more mouse movement. So whereas your index finger is getting sore, with me it's my wrist.

Mmmm, one of the big interface differences between MacOS and Windows is the way menus and lists are displayed. On Windows, it seems to show 8 (or so) then makes you drag a scroll bar to view the rest. MacOS usually expands to show as many as it can, and will scroll by dragging to the end of the list.

Much faster, but requires more mouse movement. So whereas your index finger is getting sore, with me it's my wrist.

Mmmm, one of the big interface differences between MacOS and Windows is the way menus and lists are displayed. On Windows, it seems to show 8 (or so) then makes you drag a scroll bar to view the rest. MacOS usually expands to show as many as it can, and will scroll by dragging to the end of the list.

Much faster, but requires more mouse movement. So whereas your index finger is getting sore, with me it's my wrist.

  • Author

Hi there Vaughan!!!

Yeah. Well, at least with layouts in the Status Area, one can type the letter and jump. And, since my layouts aren't in perfect alpha order (me bad), I find myself with my nose to the screen going blind trying to find the proper layouts when I need them in the Go To Layout[] popup.

God, I love these kinds of lessons. Okay, lesson learned ... now God, just 'fix make better' and I promise never to add anything out of sequence again and I promise to always name my layouts (even working ones) and don't let me leave them saying Layout #104 without a clue what they represent without having to open the darned things to see what they contain.

Sometimes rushing what I'm doing is costing me ten times the work in the long run. grin.gif

LaRetta

  • Author

Hi there Vaughan!!!

Yeah. Well, at least with layouts in the Status Area, one can type the letter and jump. And, since my layouts aren't in perfect alpha order (me bad), I find myself with my nose to the screen going blind trying to find the proper layouts when I need them in the Go To Layout[] popup.

God, I love these kinds of lessons. Okay, lesson learned ... now God, just 'fix make better' and I promise never to add anything out of sequence again and I promise to always name my layouts (even working ones) and don't let me leave them saying Layout #104 without a clue what they represent without having to open the darned things to see what they contain.

Sometimes rushing what I'm doing is costing me ten times the work in the long run. grin.gif

LaRetta

  • Author

Hi there Vaughan!!!

Yeah. Well, at least with layouts in the Status Area, one can type the letter and jump. And, since my layouts aren't in perfect alpha order (me bad), I find myself with my nose to the screen going blind trying to find the proper layouts when I need them in the Go To Layout[] popup.

God, I love these kinds of lessons. Okay, lesson learned ... now God, just 'fix make better' and I promise never to add anything out of sequence again and I promise to always name my layouts (even working ones) and don't let me leave them saying Layout #104 without a clue what they represent without having to open the darned things to see what they contain.

Sometimes rushing what I'm doing is costing me ten times the work in the long run. grin.gif

LaRetta

I usually develop with the files hosted in FM Server, so it's backed up and users can do testing easily. But one of the (very few) frustrating things with FMP 6 development is that layouts cannot be reordered while the file is hosted.

Even thought I usually don't get anywhere near 100 layouts I find scrolling through 20-odd layouis a chore. So you have all my sympathy for scrolling through 100.

As an aside, I did a job a year or so ago on a letter template database. Users had learned how to put fields on layoputs (and a few had worked out merge codes) so they could do bulk letters in FMP. They loved it. Only problem was they'd hard codes in things like dates, so they'd have to change them each time they'd use them.

Well the problem was that as the list grew past about 40 or so layouts it became faster for users to duplicate the first layout and modify it, instead of looking through the list. I got called in when the layout count passed 640! I ended up getting it down to less than 20 different letter templates.

I usually develop with the files hosted in FM Server, so it's backed up and users can do testing easily. But one of the (very few) frustrating things with FMP 6 development is that layouts cannot be reordered while the file is hosted.

Even thought I usually don't get anywhere near 100 layouts I find scrolling through 20-odd layouis a chore. So you have all my sympathy for scrolling through 100.

As an aside, I did a job a year or so ago on a letter template database. Users had learned how to put fields on layoputs (and a few had worked out merge codes) so they could do bulk letters in FMP. They loved it. Only problem was they'd hard codes in things like dates, so they'd have to change them each time they'd use them.

Well the problem was that as the list grew past about 40 or so layouts it became faster for users to duplicate the first layout and modify it, instead of looking through the list. I got called in when the layout count passed 640! I ended up getting it down to less than 20 different letter templates.

I usually develop with the files hosted in FM Server, so it's backed up and users can do testing easily. But one of the (very few) frustrating things with FMP 6 development is that layouts cannot be reordered while the file is hosted.

Even thought I usually don't get anywhere near 100 layouts I find scrolling through 20-odd layouis a chore. So you have all my sympathy for scrolling through 100.

As an aside, I did a job a year or so ago on a letter template database. Users had learned how to put fields on layoputs (and a few had worked out merge codes) so they could do bulk letters in FMP. They loved it. Only problem was they'd hard codes in things like dates, so they'd have to change them each time they'd use them.

Well the problem was that as the list grew past about 40 or so layouts it became faster for users to duplicate the first layout and modify it, instead of looking through the list. I got called in when the layout count passed 640! I ended up getting it down to less than 20 different letter templates.

  • Author

20!!!! So 100 layouts is a lot??? shocked.gif

This solution drives their entire business, from Contact Management through GL and AR. There are 5 layouts just to view the basic Contact info alone - not to mention Address window, Credit Card window ... and it goes on.

There are 22 Invoice layouts alone (counting reports)!!! Oh dear ...

LaRetta

  • Author

20!!!! So 100 layouts is a lot??? shocked.gif

This solution drives their entire business, from Contact Management through GL and AR. There are 5 layouts just to view the basic Contact info alone - not to mention Address window, Credit Card window ... and it goes on.

There are 22 Invoice layouts alone (counting reports)!!! Oh dear ...

LaRetta

  • Author

20!!!! So 100 layouts is a lot??? shocked.gif

This solution drives their entire business, from Contact Management through GL and AR. There are 5 layouts just to view the basic Contact info alone - not to mention Address window, Credit Card window ... and it goes on.

There are 22 Invoice layouts alone (counting reports)!!! Oh dear ...

LaRetta

Well, it literally sounds about 5 times more complex than mine... so 1000 would be about right!

I really didn't mean to scare you or infer you're doing anything wrong...

Well, it literally sounds about 5 times more complex than mine... so 1000 would be about right!

I really didn't mean to scare you or infer you're doing anything wrong...

Well, it literally sounds about 5 times more complex than mine... so 1000 would be about right!

I really didn't mean to scare you or infer you're doing anything wrong...

  • Author

Well, I have some layouts I can eliminate ...

When I first started using 7, I thought the layout had to be based upon the table occurence. I didn't realize I could GTRR to the TO but display the results in a main table layout. blush.gif

So I have an AddressFound layout and an PrimaryAddress layout, etc. (and they are identical). blush.gif

I figured it out quickly but haven't gone back and changed some of it yet - simply no time. Now I reuse many layouts (like a good recycler). wink.gif

  • Author

Well, I have some layouts I can eliminate ...

When I first started using 7, I thought the layout had to be based upon the table occurence. I didn't realize I could GTRR to the TO but display the results in a main table layout. blush.gif

So I have an AddressFound layout and an PrimaryAddress layout, etc. (and they are identical). blush.gif

I figured it out quickly but haven't gone back and changed some of it yet - simply no time. Now I reuse many layouts (like a good recycler). wink.gif

  • Author

Well, I have some layouts I can eliminate ...

When I first started using 7, I thought the layout had to be based upon the table occurence. I didn't realize I could GTRR to the TO but display the results in a main table layout. blush.gif

So I have an AddressFound layout and an PrimaryAddress layout, etc. (and they are identical). blush.gif

I figured it out quickly but haven't gone back and changed some of it yet - simply no time. Now I reuse many layouts (like a good recycler). wink.gif

What if you set the desired layout name (or number) into a global and use the Layout Name/Number by calculation option instead? Those are the second and third options on the list, so you shouldn't need to scroll so much.

What if you set the desired layout name (or number) into a global and use the Layout Name/Number by calculation option instead? Those are the second and third options on the list, so you shouldn't need to scroll so much.

What if you set the desired layout name (or number) into a global and use the Layout Name/Number by calculation option instead? Those are the second and third options on the list, so you shouldn't need to scroll so much.

That sounds like a pretty good idea to me but you'd need to have a VERY GOOD naming convention.

Incidentally, I group my layouts by function - Reports, Navigation, Data Entry, etc.

LaRetta, you have my sympathy!!

The interface for some devlopment items is pretty horrible. Moving layouts and scripts drives me insane because they scroll too fast (when they aren't too slow.) In fact, it is so bad I'm rather surprised it doesn't seem to have been raised as a fix-required.

That sounds like a pretty good idea to me but you'd need to have a VERY GOOD naming convention.

Incidentally, I group my layouts by function - Reports, Navigation, Data Entry, etc.

LaRetta, you have my sympathy!!

The interface for some devlopment items is pretty horrible. Moving layouts and scripts drives me insane because they scroll too fast (when they aren't too slow.) In fact, it is so bad I'm rather surprised it doesn't seem to have been raised as a fix-required.

That sounds like a pretty good idea to me but you'd need to have a VERY GOOD naming convention.

Incidentally, I group my layouts by function - Reports, Navigation, Data Entry, etc.

LaRetta, you have my sympathy!!

The interface for some devlopment items is pretty horrible. Moving layouts and scripts drives me insane because they scroll too fast (when they aren't too slow.) In fact, it is so bad I'm rather surprised it doesn't seem to have been raised as a fix-required.

  • Author

Thanks JT! I'll try some other options with it. Problem is, I use WindowsName to LayoutName quite frequently. It seems no matter how I re-think this issue (naming layouts and scripts), I'm never satisfied with it really. It's too bad we can't 'comment' layouts and scripts, ie, like we can on fields now. Hold on, I know we can add comments IN a script, but I mean add a second comment column TO a script, which we can click to sort, etc. wink.gif

Hi Paul,

FMI, bless their hearts, has provided such a fantastic program with vs. 7 that I don't want to sound like I'm complaining. Prior to 7 it wasn't noticeable because each set of layouts was contained within its own file. But, with the one-file 50-table structures, all layouts, scripts and value lists are in one huge list (in each group)!! Even the separation model wouldn't help with this issue.

Well, as always, I'll do my part and let our sweet FileMaker know of my feelings on the subject. I just hoped some of you lateral thinkers had come up with other not-yet-discovered shortcuts. Thanks everyone!

LaRetta

  • Author

Thanks JT! I'll try some other options with it. Problem is, I use WindowsName to LayoutName quite frequently. It seems no matter how I re-think this issue (naming layouts and scripts), I'm never satisfied with it really. It's too bad we can't 'comment' layouts and scripts, ie, like we can on fields now. Hold on, I know we can add comments IN a script, but I mean add a second comment column TO a script, which we can click to sort, etc. wink.gif

Hi Paul,

FMI, bless their hearts, has provided such a fantastic program with vs. 7 that I don't want to sound like I'm complaining. Prior to 7 it wasn't noticeable because each set of layouts was contained within its own file. But, with the one-file 50-table structures, all layouts, scripts and value lists are in one huge list (in each group)!! Even the separation model wouldn't help with this issue.

Well, as always, I'll do my part and let our sweet FileMaker know of my feelings on the subject. I just hoped some of you lateral thinkers had come up with other not-yet-discovered shortcuts. Thanks everyone!

LaRetta

  • Author

Thanks JT! I'll try some other options with it. Problem is, I use WindowsName to LayoutName quite frequently. It seems no matter how I re-think this issue (naming layouts and scripts), I'm never satisfied with it really. It's too bad we can't 'comment' layouts and scripts, ie, like we can on fields now. Hold on, I know we can add comments IN a script, but I mean add a second comment column TO a script, which we can click to sort, etc. wink.gif

Hi Paul,

FMI, bless their hearts, has provided such a fantastic program with vs. 7 that I don't want to sound like I'm complaining. Prior to 7 it wasn't noticeable because each set of layouts was contained within its own file. But, with the one-file 50-table structures, all layouts, scripts and value lists are in one huge list (in each group)!! Even the separation model wouldn't help with this issue.

Well, as always, I'll do my part and let our sweet FileMaker know of my feelings on the subject. I just hoped some of you lateral thinkers had come up with other not-yet-discovered shortcuts. Thanks everyone!

LaRetta

Hi Everyone,

When writing a script and selecting Go To Layout [ ] and then selecting from the SMALL popup, is there a quick way to jump by beginning letter? Scrolling works but I have 110 layouts (is that a lot?) and my index finger is taking a toll (from repeated scrolling)?

I'm hoping someone has discovered a shortcut command (for Windows). [CTRL] and 'Alpha' doesn't work; neither does any other combination I can think of. crazy.gif

LaRetta

Hi LaRetta,

www.newmillennium.com has a great product called ScriptOrganizer. I have used it for quite sometime for .fp5 files. However, as far as I know they have not come out with a version for .fp7 files yet but it is worth keeping your eyes on. I am. They also have one called LayoutOrganizer which I have not used. Hopefully they will have the version 7 files out soon.

At least in version 7 we don't need as many scripts to do the same things nor is there the need for duplicte scripts in other files. I do wish Filemaker would however build in some type of script/layout organization system with folders or something. We need it badly.

Hi Everyone,

When writing a script and selecting Go To Layout [ ] and then selecting from the SMALL popup, is there a quick way to jump by beginning letter? Scrolling works but I have 110 layouts (is that a lot?) and my index finger is taking a toll (from repeated scrolling)?

I'm hoping someone has discovered a shortcut command (for Windows). [CTRL] and 'Alpha' doesn't work; neither does any other combination I can think of. crazy.gif

LaRetta

Hi LaRetta,

www.newmillennium.com has a great product called ScriptOrganizer. I have used it for quite sometime for .fp5 files. However, as far as I know they have not come out with a version for .fp7 files yet but it is worth keeping your eyes on. I am. They also have one called LayoutOrganizer which I have not used. Hopefully they will have the version 7 files out soon.

At least in version 7 we don't need as many scripts to do the same things nor is there the need for duplicte scripts in other files. I do wish Filemaker would however build in some type of script/layout organization system with folders or something. We need it badly.

Hi Everyone,

When writing a script and selecting Go To Layout [ ] and then selecting from the SMALL popup, is there a quick way to jump by beginning letter? Scrolling works but I have 110 layouts (is that a lot?) and my index finger is taking a toll (from repeated scrolling)?

I'm hoping someone has discovered a shortcut command (for Windows). [CTRL] and 'Alpha' doesn't work; neither does any other combination I can think of. crazy.gif

LaRetta

Hi LaRetta,

www.newmillennium.com has a great product called ScriptOrganizer. I have used it for quite sometime for .fp5 files. However, as far as I know they have not come out with a version for .fp7 files yet but it is worth keeping your eyes on. I am. They also have one called LayoutOrganizer which I have not used. Hopefully they will have the version 7 files out soon.

At least in version 7 we don't need as many scripts to do the same things nor is there the need for duplicte scripts in other files. I do wish Filemaker would however build in some type of script/layout organization system with folders or something. We need it badly.

  • Author

Hi Perry,

Thank you! I will certainly keep a watch on New Millennium!

Well even now, I'm finding additional ways to combine my scripts/layouts using Script Parameters, etc. But regardless, I can't imagine a full solution not benefiting from some additional sub-popups or organizational features here.

Thanks for the post! grin.gif

LaRetta

  • Author

Hi Perry,

Thank you! I will certainly keep a watch on New Millennium!

Well even now, I'm finding additional ways to combine my scripts/layouts using Script Parameters, etc. But regardless, I can't imagine a full solution not benefiting from some additional sub-popups or organizational features here.

Thanks for the post! grin.gif

LaRetta

  • Author

Hi Perry,

Thank you! I will certainly keep a watch on New Millennium!

Well even now, I'm finding additional ways to combine my scripts/layouts using Script Parameters, etc. But regardless, I can't imagine a full solution not benefiting from some additional sub-popups or organizational features here.

Thanks for the post! grin.gif

LaRetta

I agree wholehearted that even 1 level of "folder" organization in the Scripts menu would be fantastic. When I have really a lot of scripts in a file (which I seldom do nowdays), I found a way to create a "table of contents" at the top, which allowed me to quickly get to the section I wanted.

It basically exploits the fact that numbers come before letters in sorting. When you type a number FileMaker will scroll to the 1st script starting with that number (which probably none of them do yet :-). So, I put a dummy number script at the END of the group(s) of scripts, so that it scrolls to there.

Then, at the top, I create dummy blank scripts for the "table of contents":

0 <-- brings you back to top (or use Home key)

[1] Navigation

[2] Printing

[3] Imports & Exports

In the scripts themselves:

[1] --------------------- Navigation <-- just a label, to see

Bunch of real nav scripts

1 <-- this is where it scrolls to, the end of the group

[2] --------------------- Printing

bunch of printing scripts

2

etc., up to 9 (plus End key)

Since there's no point in scrolling to every small group, you can combine groups. Just include both names in the table of contents, and put their number at the end of their last group.

I agree wholehearted that even 1 level of "folder" organization in the Scripts menu would be fantastic. When I have really a lot of scripts in a file (which I seldom do nowdays), I found a way to create a "table of contents" at the top, which allowed me to quickly get to the section I wanted.

It basically exploits the fact that numbers come before letters in sorting. When you type a number FileMaker will scroll to the 1st script starting with that number (which probably none of them do yet :-). So, I put a dummy number script at the END of the group(s) of scripts, so that it scrolls to there.

Then, at the top, I create dummy blank scripts for the "table of contents":

0 <-- brings you back to top (or use Home key)

[1] Navigation

[2] Printing

[3] Imports & Exports

In the scripts themselves:

[1] --------------------- Navigation <-- just a label, to see

Bunch of real nav scripts

1 <-- this is where it scrolls to, the end of the group

[2] --------------------- Printing

bunch of printing scripts

2

etc., up to 9 (plus End key)

Since there's no point in scrolling to every small group, you can combine groups. Just include both names in the table of contents, and put their number at the end of their last group.

I agree wholehearted that even 1 level of "folder" organization in the Scripts menu would be fantastic. When I have really a lot of scripts in a file (which I seldom do nowdays), I found a way to create a "table of contents" at the top, which allowed me to quickly get to the section I wanted.

It basically exploits the fact that numbers come before letters in sorting. When you type a number FileMaker will scroll to the 1st script starting with that number (which probably none of them do yet :-). So, I put a dummy number script at the END of the group(s) of scripts, so that it scrolls to there.

Then, at the top, I create dummy blank scripts for the "table of contents":

0 <-- brings you back to top (or use Home key)

[1] Navigation

[2] Printing

[3] Imports & Exports

In the scripts themselves:

[1] --------------------- Navigation <-- just a label, to see

Bunch of real nav scripts

1 <-- this is where it scrolls to, the end of the group

[2] --------------------- Printing

bunch of printing scripts

2

etc., up to 9 (plus End key)

Since there's no point in scrolling to every small group, you can combine groups. Just include both names in the table of contents, and put their number at the end of their last group.

  • Author

Hi Fenton smile.gif

I have each group with a blank script as --- Navigation --- etc so all I do is hit the dash and it jumps. However, that is insufficient because even so this grouping is out of sequence and one mis-click and I jump past it. There is no REVERSE. Bummer.

Your idea makes total sense to assist with organization; particularly the TOC at the beginning. In this way, I wouldn't need to have them alpha. God I wish we could grab and move several scripts at a time - same with layouts in the layout order.

I will NEVER let this happen again. Dunno2.gif

Everyone, I'm the perfect example of what NOT to do. I think it must be my lot in life. But at least I'm walkin' the walk so I won't apologize.

LaRetta wink.gif

  • Author

Hi Fenton smile.gif

I have each group with a blank script as --- Navigation --- etc so all I do is hit the dash and it jumps. However, that is insufficient because even so this grouping is out of sequence and one mis-click and I jump past it. There is no REVERSE. Bummer.

Your idea makes total sense to assist with organization; particularly the TOC at the beginning. In this way, I wouldn't need to have them alpha. God I wish we could grab and move several scripts at a time - same with layouts in the layout order.

I will NEVER let this happen again. Dunno2.gif

Everyone, I'm the perfect example of what NOT to do. I think it must be my lot in life. But at least I'm walkin' the walk so I won't apologize.

LaRetta wink.gif

  • Author

Hi Fenton smile.gif

I have each group with a blank script as --- Navigation --- etc so all I do is hit the dash and it jumps. However, that is insufficient because even so this grouping is out of sequence and one mis-click and I jump past it. There is no REVERSE. Bummer.

Your idea makes total sense to assist with organization; particularly the TOC at the beginning. In this way, I wouldn't need to have them alpha. God I wish we could grab and move several scripts at a time - same with layouts in the layout order.

I will NEVER let this happen again. Dunno2.gif

Everyone, I'm the perfect example of what NOT to do. I think it must be my lot in life. But at least I'm walkin' the walk so I won't apologize.

LaRetta wink.gif

Is it necessary have 110 layouts? Is that all uses?

Is it necessary have 110 layouts? Is that all uses?

Is it necessary have 110 layouts? Is that all uses?

  • Author

aaa asked ...Is it necessary have 110 layouts?

Well, what do you think?

General Form Layouts & Windows

Main Menu (1)

Accounts Receivable (3)

Activites (2)

Address window (2) ... should be 1

Advertising (1)

Analysis Products - columnar portals by year/quarter/month (3)

Analysis Rep Commissions - columnar portals by year/quarter/month (3)

Analysis Sales Dollars- columnar portals by year/quarter/month (3)

Calculator (1)

Calendar displays (3)

Checks/Payer/Deposits window (1)

Company Information window (1)

Contact Detail (4)

Contact Sales & Product Analysis (1)

Credit Card window (2) ... should be 1

Developer layout (1)

Employee detail (2)

Error Message window (1)

Find layouts (2) ... one quick search and one advanced

General Ledger (4)

Help (1)

History & Audit Tracking (1)

Inventory (2)

Invoicing/Orders (2)

Management views (3)

NewsLetter (1)

Numbers window (1) ... phone, fax, email

Online Authorizations Importing/Exporting (1)

Payroll (6)

Preferences Management (1)

Preferences User (1)

Products (3)

Reference Materials Library (1)

Returns (2)

Rules (1)

Shipments in Process, Pending & Shipped portal window (1)

Shipping (4)

Surveys (1) ... but there is a Surveys file also.

Templates - Used to set Customer Prefs & pricing (1)

Territories (1)

Things To Do (2)

Reports, List views, Letters & forms (21) to support all of the above functions. Developer tables used by scripts and/or import/export (11).

Many of my layouts are small (appearing as popup windows) so they don't contain a lot of fields but still count as a layout. And I do NOT believe in overcrowding a layout. I enjoyed this exercise because (I believe) it assured me that the numbers aren't excessive.

The entire business is here (for the past 6 years). Our LineItems alone are 400,000 records but the overall file size is only 400MB - there are 42 tables. I use all native FM graphics and my calcs are usually lean (because I get wonderful assistance from FM Forums). We don't even have Server Advanced installed yet but every User movement and request is instantaneous. I simply don't know how I could pare it down any further and I actually have plans to add another 8-10 views.

Now, if someone had 400 layouts for a full-business solution, I might raise my eyebrows; but much depends upon what the business wants. The Analysis views provide pivot table crosstab views by Rep/Territory/Type of Product and more. No, they aren't NECESSARY but they are nice for viewing the data in various ways.

LaRetta wink.gif

  • Author

aaa asked ...Is it necessary have 110 layouts?

Well, what do you think?

General Form Layouts & Windows

Main Menu (1)

Accounts Receivable (3)

Activites (2)

Address window (2) ... should be 1

Advertising (1)

Analysis Products - columnar portals by year/quarter/month (3)

Analysis Rep Commissions - columnar portals by year/quarter/month (3)

Analysis Sales Dollars- columnar portals by year/quarter/month (3)

Calculator (1)

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Contact Detail (4)

Contact Sales & Product Analysis (1)

Credit Card window (2) ... should be 1

Developer layout (1)

Employee detail (2)

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Find layouts (2) ... one quick search and one advanced

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Shipping (4)

Surveys (1) ... but there is a Surveys file also.

Templates - Used to set Customer Prefs & pricing (1)

Territories (1)

Things To Do (2)

Reports, List views, Letters & forms (21) to support all of the above functions. Developer tables used by scripts and/or import/export (11).

Many of my layouts are small (appearing as popup windows) so they don't contain a lot of fields but still count as a layout. And I do NOT believe in overcrowding a layout. I enjoyed this exercise because (I believe) it assured me that the numbers aren't excessive.

The entire business is here (for the past 6 years). Our LineItems alone are 400,000 records but the overall file size is only 400MB - there are 42 tables. I use all native FM graphics and my calcs are usually lean (because I get wonderful assistance from FM Forums). We don't even have Server Advanced installed yet but every User movement and request is instantaneous. I simply don't know how I could pare it down any further and I actually have plans to add another 8-10 views.

Now, if someone had 400 layouts for a full-business solution, I might raise my eyebrows; but much depends upon what the business wants. The Analysis views provide pivot table crosstab views by Rep/Territory/Type of Product and more. No, they aren't NECESSARY but they are nice for viewing the data in various ways.

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