Terminal Services vs. VNC

[Leb i Sol]

Hello Gang!

I was wondering if anyone can compare these two approches.

Using Terminal Services vs.

Using VNC

http://www.realvnc.com/

to do the FM remotly.

Sorry if I missposted in the form.

Thank you all!

[Anatoli]

TS = fast, multiple users | cost

VNC = slow, single user | cost

[Charles Delfs]

Terminal services creates a virtual machine on the TS server, and serveral users can have thier own little workstations running at the same time.

VNC is more of a remote desk top, so only one client can log in at a time.

Terminal service cost big bucks (or you can just change your machine ID ever 90 days (he he he)

If the $$ is there then TS is the way to go, secure fast

VNC does not

Charles

[Anatoli]

Not *that* big bucks. Even small companies in poor Czech Republic are paying the license happily.

For what it does it is really cheap.

You obviously need VLA license for your software like FM Pro to run successfully in virtual workstations.

HTH

[cjaeger]

I would prefer Citrix over terminal services if you have

- a lot of users

- shaky lines

- a variety of platforms

- thin clients or 486er Pcs

- need of tight security

VNC is good for system administration/remote learning/user support.

[Leb i Sol]

Thanx guys!

u confirmed my impressions....can't blaim me for trying to find a solution that is < $$$.

I have read bout some tricks right here

where SSH is used in combo with VNC but how many platforms outthere really run SSH .

Luckly I don't have many users but I just wanted to see your opinions and experiences before I digg a whole for myslef. I have tesed both (TS and VNC) and as far as performance is concerend they are pretty close I might say. Citrix was a good call Mr. cjaeger, I never though of it...( we had a little "support issue" few yrs back so its on my "aggggghhhh list"...although the dam_n thing work pretty slick ones configured right).

About TS... I read some posts of people being able to run TS on WIN NT NON-server platforms(eg. win 2000 Pro) IF Server CD is available - without purchasing TS as a separate package......anyone done this before or is this one of those "semi-illegal-registry-tweaks"?

Thank you guys for sharing and taking your time!

All the best!

[Anatoli]

RE: I have tesed both (TS and VNC) and as far as performance is concerend they are pretty close I might say.

In all my tests VNC is 5-100 times slower than TS. For better security try TightVNC

IMHO Citrix is just another $$$ on top of TS $$$.

RE: "semi-illegal-registry-tweaks"

Probably.

[Leb i Sol]

E sta ima Anatoli!

I have also looked into TightVNC and it will probably work since I was intending only to use it for some remote app launch.....anyhow.

"RE: "semi-illegal-registry-tweaks"

Probably."

maaaaaan......pssssstttttt...."they are listening mr. Anderson"....next time just blink twice if u agree...

thanx for the info!

[Robert Kidd]

I would go for Terminal Services every time, it's very efficient. You do need a decent server with lots of RAM and it can't be your FileMaker Server. For Terminal Services I think you will find that if your clients are running W2k or XP proffessional then you don't need TS licenses they are "free". There are some issues with printing but I think these are much reduced with Server 2003.

[Anatoli]

Hihi

RE: then you don't need TS licenses they are "free".

Yes for the workstations. But not for the TS server seats

[Leb i Sol]

yes, ones bought chairs can "free"-ly be moved from living room to the kitchen!

after all, we are talking Micro$oft......

p.s. Bill G. has never heard word FREE and someone has torn out the F-in page from the dictionary...

[Anatoli]

BG also immediately sacks everybody mentioned that ugly and nasty word

To be fair... IE is free and good, I was pleased with reasonably priced NT/2000 more than with hopelessly overpriced Macs.

And I can build my machines exactly as I need them to be.

Apple user since 1982 and ex-Apple user since 2000.

[Mariano Peterson]

If you already purchased Windows 2000 Server then you may already have seats available to you. Check your product -- then TS would be free

Citrix has a good relationship with Microsoft. Citrix does a lot more than a few registry tweaks, which increase the speed quite a bit. With every new OS, MS catches up one step to Citrix. But, Citrix also moves up a notch, so Citrix, while more expensive, always tends to be faster. But yes, Citrix is an add-on to TS. Also, Citrix makes clients for most platforms, making it an option for Mac users.

[Anatoli]

IMHO TS is running on Macs as well. Our boss in LA was using it