A mysterious field & text location shift

[categoryman]

I have a series of 7 duplicated layouts, the first of which shows 1 pixel shift of all field and text when moving from layout number 1 to any of the other 7.

If I check the fields and text with "object info," the numeric referents are exactly the same.

If I use the T-square, the pixel shift is apparent.

I can't figure out what makes this happen.

Thanks in advance for shared wisdom.

[LaRetta]

FM has always shifted by a px. I believe they do it because if they placed the duplicated image exactly on top, it wouldn't show. By offsetting by a px, the duplication can be seen.

[categoryman]

LaRetta,

Thanks for giving this a shot.

What perplexes me, however, is that my solution contains three additional 7 duplicated layout operations that were created in the same manner, none of which display the same pixel shift problem?

I thought a couple of screen shots might add additional visual insight.

You can see that Object Info shows that the distance from the bottom (227 px) and right edges (554 px) of Layout 1 are the same as Layout 2; the difference is detectable by comparing the layouts with the horizontal T bar line.

A related observation is that Layout 1 background is a light gray in color and extends off to the right; but Layout 2 background color changes from light gray to a dark pixilated gray as it extends right. I don't understand this change given that the layouts are dupes and wonder if it might relate to the shift issue?

It sounds like I need to manually fix the layout that is a pixel off. Somehow this fix "bugs me" (pun) because it sort of defeats the benefit of using the "duplicate" feature.

Anyhow, thanks for taking the time to assist me with this problem.

[comment]

Why don't you make a copy of your file, delete everything except two layouts, and post it?

[LaRetta]

I don't know what to suggest ... if you select any object and make note of the top two in Object box, duplicate and immediately paste again, you will see the new object shifts by varying amounts to the right and up. Sometimes it'll jump 7 to the right and 1 up; do it again and it'll jump 2 to the right and 2 up. But you are right that it feel inconsistent; it should always be 1 px up and 1 px to the right (if anything).

I've just always made note of the top two Object boxes then, after pasting, immediately change the top two boxes to the original setting and the duplicated items will jump to the new location.

UPDATE: Strange that I can't find a consistency on it's jump parameters ... I know it always jumps off a bit - always has (on Windows at least). But I expected the jump amounts to always be consistent and they are NOT. It bothers me that they don't always jump the same amount.

Edited April 7, 2008 by Guest
Added Update

[LaRetta]

Oh, you are duplicating LAYOUTS. Nevermind ... :content:

[categoryman]

I rebuilt the layouts. The problem is gone.

The "mystery" remains as to exactly how I fouled it up in the first place.

Thanks again for your help.

[David Jondreau]

How are you duplicating these layouts? Are you sure you're not doing anything post-duplication to cause these changes?

#2 is different than #3 in a few ways. The text object is different, and the left arrow is missing. The "theme" field looks like it has a different vertical alignment.

Actually that'd be my guess. The vertical alignment of the "Go to step" text box is set to 'top' or 'center' in layout #1 and 'bottom' in #2. The text box is the same dimensions and location, but the text being displayed has moved down within it.

That pixelated gray looks like you've set that layout to print in 1 column per page. Check Layouts-->Layout Settings-->Printing.

Edited April 7, 2008 by Guest

[Søren Dyhr]

How are you duplicating these layouts?

Excellent question, since if you lock the entire thing before copying would the object info tell you exactly where the newly single object should be located, by using the old coordinates.

What might fool you is if the header and footer locations are a tad off, since they offset even matters stored as reusables with this too despite the location point actually is stored in xml...:

http://www.myfmbutler.com/index.lasso?p=422

--sd