March 12, 200520 yr Author I'm testing out FM7 (as a naive user). I wanted to see how export/import would work ... naively thinking that if I exported in tabbed format, then I would be able to import that same file straight into the same file without effort, but when I did so, the order of the fields is different. I cannot seem to specify that the import order matches the existing table field order. Is it possible to do this or do I have to do this manually?
March 12, 200520 yr I'm testing out FM7 (as a naive user). I wanted to see how export/import would work ... naively thinking that if I exported in tabbed format, then I would be able to import that same file straight into the same file without effort, but when I did so, the order of the fields is different. I cannot seem to specify that the import order matches the existing table field order. Is it possible to do this or do I have to do this manually?
March 12, 200520 yr Author I'm testing out FM7 (as a naive user). I wanted to see how export/import would work ... naively thinking that if I exported in tabbed format, then I would be able to import that same file straight into the same file without effort, but when I did so, the order of the fields is different. I cannot seem to specify that the import order matches the existing table field order. Is it possible to do this or do I have to do this manually?
March 12, 200520 yr After you choose Export, select filename and then file format, Tab in your case. Then choose which fields you wish to export. At this point you can click and drag just to the left of the field names that you moved over to export and change the export order.
March 12, 200520 yr After you choose Export, select filename and then file format, Tab in your case. Then choose which fields you wish to export. At this point you can click and drag just to the left of the field names that you moved over to export and change the export order.
March 12, 200520 yr After you choose Export, select filename and then file format, Tab in your case. Then choose which fields you wish to export. At this point you can click and drag just to the left of the field names that you moved over to export and change the export order.
March 12, 200520 yr Author I'm not sure I follow ... I wanted to export the entire file. When I did that the fields were exported in the same order as they were in the table that I was exporting. But when I attempted to import them into the same table, the list of mapped fields did not correspond to the original order. I ultimately had to reorder every field by hand as there did not appear to be an option to map the import fields to the table in that order. That was a very tedious process.
March 12, 200520 yr Author I'm not sure I follow ... I wanted to export the entire file. When I did that the fields were exported in the same order as they were in the table that I was exporting. But when I attempted to import them into the same table, the list of mapped fields did not correspond to the original order. I ultimately had to reorder every field by hand as there did not appear to be an option to map the import fields to the table in that order. That was a very tedious process.
March 12, 200520 yr Author I'm not sure I follow ... I wanted to export the entire file. When I did that the fields were exported in the same order as they were in the table that I was exporting. But when I attempted to import them into the same table, the list of mapped fields did not correspond to the original order. I ultimately had to reorder every field by hand as there did not appear to be an option to map the import fields to the table in that order. That was a very tedious process.
March 13, 200520 yr That's why some people prefer the merge format. It uses field names in the first row.
March 13, 200520 yr That's why some people prefer the merge format. It uses field names in the first row.
March 13, 200520 yr That's why some people prefer the merge format. It uses field names in the first row.
March 13, 200520 yr Author Thanks ... I'll look into that. But it still doesn't address the fact that import does not by default use the same order as export. That IMHO is a design defect.
March 13, 200520 yr Author Thanks ... I'll look into that. But it still doesn't address the fact that import does not by default use the same order as export. That IMHO is a design defect.
March 13, 200520 yr Author Thanks ... I'll look into that. But it still doesn't address the fact that import does not by default use the same order as export. That IMHO is a design defect.
March 13, 200520 yr Look closely at the field names as you move them over to export. Just to the left of the names you will see an icon with little up and down arrows. You can click on the field name and drag them up and down to change the order of export.
March 13, 200520 yr Look closely at the field names as you move them over to export. Just to the left of the names you will see an icon with little up and down arrows. You can click on the field name and drag them up and down to change the order of export.
March 13, 200520 yr Look closely at the field names as you move them over to export. Just to the left of the names you will see an icon with little up and down arrows. You can click on the field name and drag them up and down to change the order of export.
March 13, 200520 yr Author That isn't my point. I can see that I can rearrange my fields ... my point is that there does not appear to be an import option that says to match the order of the fields in the file ... which is what happens when the export happens. I think that the default order for export should match the default order for import ... and that should be an import option.
March 13, 200520 yr Author That isn't my point. I can see that I can rearrange my fields ... my point is that there does not appear to be an import option that says to match the order of the fields in the file ... which is what happens when the export happens. I think that the default order for export should match the default order for import ... and that should be an import option.
March 13, 200520 yr Author That isn't my point. I can see that I can rearrange my fields ... my point is that there does not appear to be an import option that says to match the order of the fields in the file ... which is what happens when the export happens. I think that the default order for export should match the default order for import ... and that should be an import option.
March 13, 200520 yr I agree with Bruce, Use the Merge format, and then when importing you can use the Match Field Names. If they are truly exactly the same import and export, they should match. BTW, once you have an import working, you can automate it by creating a script using the Import script step. So, even if you have to manually match the fields once, that should be the last time. Lee
March 13, 200520 yr I agree with Bruce, Use the Merge format, and then when importing you can use the Match Field Names. If they are truly exactly the same import and export, they should match. BTW, once you have an import working, you can automate it by creating a script using the Import script step. So, even if you have to manually match the fields once, that should be the last time. Lee
March 13, 200520 yr I agree with Bruce, Use the Merge format, and then when importing you can use the Match Field Names. If they are truly exactly the same import and export, they should match. BTW, once you have an import working, you can automate it by creating a script using the Import script step. So, even if you have to manually match the fields once, that should be the last time. Lee
March 13, 200520 yr Author Hey, I'm not disagreeing with any of the suggestions/comments ... I'm just pleading for symmetry between the default export and import field orders. Thanks to all of you, Pat
March 13, 200520 yr Author Hey, I'm not disagreeing with any of the suggestions/comments ... I'm just pleading for symmetry between the default export and import field orders. Thanks to all of you, Pat
March 13, 200520 yr Author Hey, I'm not disagreeing with any of the suggestions/comments ... I'm just pleading for symmetry between the default export and import field orders. Thanks to all of you, Pat
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