Juba Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 So I was reading another post and when I bought the software I bought the FMP Adv because I thought I could do a runtime app and then install it on the main computer of my client and then all the computers on the network could access the file (even at the same time) and use it without problems, is this true? Thanks, Julius
Juba Posted November 19, 2006 Author Posted November 19, 2006 How do I tell in the software (runtime) where to look for the database? I tried deleting the USR file and it asked for the database, how can I tell the runtime where to look without it asking for it? Thanks, Julius
IdealData Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 Here's some simple rules about runtimes: 1. They are single user - you cannot host them. 2. Runtimes do not support plugins, so you cannot web host either as the web support is based on a plugin. 3. Runtimes can still be run under FMP as an ordinary .fp7 file. 4. Runtimes can have developer access removed. Beware of point 3- just because you make a runtime and dsitribute it does not mean that it can't be opened in developer mode later - you must make sure to keep an original source file or put password protection in place. Point 4 is the converse - once developer access is removed it cannot be re-instated. Keep your source files safe!
Juba Posted November 19, 2006 Author Posted November 19, 2006 So what would I need to buy for my clients to have the ability to use my software on a network? Thanks, Julius
Søren Dyhr Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 One of these: http://www.filemaker.com/products/fms/index.html ...and one for each employee/staff, so if you are boss and have 3 employees do you need at least 4 copies with separate registrationcodes to this product: http://www.filemaker.com/products/fmp/index.html --sd
Juba Posted November 19, 2006 Author Posted November 19, 2006 But what does the point 10 mean: 10# Share databases with Windows and Mac users simultaneously over the network or across the Web. This is on the features of FM 8.5 the link you gave me: http://www.filemaker.com/products/fmp/index.html Thanks, Julius
Juba Posted November 19, 2006 Author Posted November 19, 2006 I have setup the filemaker to be used with a browser from inside my network, this is good: http://192.168.x.x:80 Is there another way of doing this? Thanks, Julius
Juba Posted November 19, 2006 Author Posted November 19, 2006 Done but not on runtime , but with this it will be only to buy one software for all the network, is there a cheaper way? Thanks, Julius
Søren Dyhr Posted November 20, 2006 Posted November 20, 2006 Share databases with Windows and Mac users simultaneously over the network or across the Web. That's peer2peer sharing, which means 5 copies of the clientversion, can see (via the hosting) one which is decided to act as server, for the rest of the lot. The system can be made to work that way with 4-5 users but say the one who serves his solution for the rest of his team, suddently initiate a processor hogging activity at the same time as he act as server, the other users will all feel a lack of resposiveness. You can to a certain extend make designed workarounds via the separation model, so a lot of the dependencies is moved away from the serving machine, back to the comparingly wealth of prossessing power each user have to his/her disposal. But it's the kind of thiftyness that then equates in much longer time spend on developement. Similar development intensive, can you make the entire solution be served via IWP from just one copy of filemaker which then serves 5 concurrent users, who access your solution with their webbrowsers. But taking care of all the exceptions to the change of interface options provides, equates in 3x to 8x times longer developement time, because a lot of attention needs to be made to simple things like the length of field names, which shortens the HTML generated.... all for the sake of making the solutions resposiveness as swift as posible. IWP solution is usually deployed on this tool instead: http://www.filemaker.com/products/fmsa/ Which allow you to have a 100 concurrent users, accessing your solution from their webbrowsers. I guess this isn't the kind of answer you're hoping for??? --sd
Søren Dyhr Posted November 20, 2006 Posted November 20, 2006 Done but not on runtime , but with this it will be only to buy one software for all the network, is there a cheaper way? With spit an polish should you be able to migrate parts of you solution to open source tools instead: http://www.fmpromigrator.com/index.html --sd
cjaeger Posted November 27, 2006 Posted November 27, 2006 Point 2 is not correct. Runtimes DO support plugins EXCEPT the ones bundled with standard FileMaker, so: no Web, PDF or ODBC, but everything else. So if you write your own web plugin, no prob (unless you are FSA member, who are not allowed to circumvent those limititations by FSA statutes ....)
comment Posted November 27, 2006 Posted November 27, 2006 You can write your own plugin, but unless you limit the access to one user (total) at a time, I believe you'd be violating your Developer license (no connection to FSA).
Steven H. Blackwell Posted November 30, 2006 Posted November 30, 2006 1. They are single user - you cannot host them. 2. Runtimes do not support plugins, so you cannot web host either as the web support is based on a plugin. 3. Runtimes can still be run under FMP as an ordinary .fp7 file. 4. Runtimes can have developer access removed. Whoops. There's a lot of confusion here. A runtime is an executable containing the engine produced by the FileMaker Pro Advanced Developer Tool. it can be associated with a number of data files. The data files can be hosted by FIlemaker Server for multiple users. Users must connect with a bona fide client, and a runtime engine is not such a client. Runtime engines support most 3rd party plug-ins. They do not support so-called companion plug-ins from FMI. If you want to do Web Publishing, get FileMaker Server 8 Advanced. HTH. Steven
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