Please help: Error message!!

[Silvia]

I've created a related database with a total of four fp5 files. I have the Web Companion on and then I get the following error when I restart FMP5:

"Filemaker cannot host a file because of a network error. Files marked as multiuser will not be available over the network. (10048)"

I want to set the files to multiuser in order for it to be accesible for other users through the internet - or isn't that necessary?!

Whenever I open the multiuser files the programme crashes. When I put it back to singleuser it doesn't...

Please help me out! Thanks!

[ February 14, 2002, 06:36 AM: Message edited by: Beginner ]

[Keith M. Davie]

Why not try believing that the program is telling you the truth. Or, put another way, you must use single user. Everyone you want to have access over the internet will be able to do so through the format files you develop. That is why you are called the Developer. Instead of going into a panic, you would be well advised to spend some time reading a book or two. Allow at least a week of reading about what you are attempting before you start your computer.You would also be well advised to read as many of the threads on the Internet Forums as possible and on a regular (daily) basis. Most all of your questions have been answered here already.

Did someone tell you this would be easy and there were quick solutions that did not require thought and knowledge?

[ February 14, 2002, 06:59 AM: Message edited by: Keith M. Davie ]

[trevorg]

Keith, you could have just stopped at your third sentence. His name is Beginner, and that's why he asked his question. You didn't need to burn him for asking.

[Keith M. Davie]

It was not intended as a burn. Sorry if anyone felt singed.

It was intended as a wake-up call.

This, I believe, is excellent advice. It came after my third sentence, "...you would be well advised to spend some time reading a book or two. Allow at least a week of reading about what you are attempting before you start your computer.You would also be well advised to read as many of the threads on the Internet Forums as possible and on a regular (daily) basis. Most all of your questions have been answered here already."

Perhaps my belief is in error.

Take ten deep breaths. Take an attitude. Relax. There are no short-cuts to being a Developer. Research is good for the soul.

[ February 14, 2002, 09:07 AM: Message edited by: Keith M. Davie ]

[Steven H. Blackwell]

Special Edition Using FileMAker Pro 5 by Rich Coulombre available from Amazon.

Old Advance Man

[Keith M. Davie]

Maybe I should have plugged my own work:

http://www.simplifyfm.com:591/

[trevorg]

Not everyone is a professional developer. Many of FileMakers "Developers" are people that have their own job responsibilities with Filemaker as a footnote in their job description.

From FileMakers website:

FileMaker Pro 5.5 brings instant productivity to today's business workgroups...

...quickly create solutions adapted to your business needs...

...enables powerful Internet and intranet ...

It doesn't say, "Buy a book and read for at least a week before attempting to use this software".

Unfortunately, some people think FileMaker is completely instant and easy (like our bosses) and it just leads to frustration at times. Hence some of these HELP! posts from newbie's.

I agree with your advice, as I have been reading and reading and reading for a long time (especially this forum), but sometimes we just need HELP!

Now, I need to get back to my real job as soon as I figure out some more Filemaker issues....

Oh, and I would have loved to see your site, but our corporate firewall does not allow access to that port.

[Silvia]

Thanks Trevor, for standing up for me.

Like my name says - I'm a beginner and was thrown into this project a week ago. I'm a web designer but have never worked with FMP before. My only database experience is with Access, and that's a couple of years ago and not the same as FMP, therefore I need some extra help. I do have books to help me with, but I don't have the time to go through them thoroughly. They'll have to serve more as a look-up reference - that's why I hoped anyone in here who's familiar with FMP would help me out. Thanks anyway.

P.S.

Btw, I'm a SHE not a HE!

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www.ssorhaug.com

[trevorg]

Good luck!

[Garry Claridge]

I just re-read your question.

quote:

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I want to set the files to multiuser in order for it to be accesible for other users through the internet - or isn't that necessary?!

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This is not neccessary for web-publishing. Only for sharing with FMP clients.

All the best.

Garry

[Garry Claridge]

You may have a port conflict. Do you have a web-server on the same computer? If so, it may be set to port 80, whereas the Web Companion is initially set to 80. Change the Web Companion port number to something over 1024.

Good Luck.

Garry

ps This is similar to Jeff's advice in the other thread. He has given a more detailed description.

[ February 14, 2002, 12:19 PM: Message edited by: Garry Claridge ]

[Keith M. Davie]

"I do have books to help me with, but I don't have the time to go through them thoroughly."

I'm sorry you "dont' have time". Please have your boss read this.

"Sir or Madam

A boss is a mature person with understanding.

How do you expect someone who has no familiarity with FileMaker to develop web solutions? Take the pressure off. This person is going to need an intense month of reading and research, probably longer. First they must learn how FileMaker works as a db program. Then they must learn a new language of cdml tags. Then they must learn how to incorporate those tags into the language they already know such that the interactions are successful. In addition there are many problems inherent within the interfacing with FileMaker, from scripts to security. These issues are not discussed in the books. They are certainly not made prominent by FileMaker. (Do the words "sales pitch" mean anything to you?)

Please spend a bit of your "valuable" time reading the past year's worth of threads on just one of these Internet forums. You may have second, even third thoughts on your course of action and your abusive nature of pressuring your employee.

Like it or not, your employee must become a FileMaker Developer to achieve your goals. How is your employee to do this? Through osmosis?

If you do not want your employee to become a FileMaker Developer, then maybe you should outsource. But lighten up on your employee. Be the mature person you are."

[Keith M. Davie]

Trevor, yes I understand that many people who develop FileMaker solutions are employees. That they are employees does not mean they are not Developers. If their job requires them to develop FileMaker solutions, then they are, like it or not, Developers. That they must become Developers for their employer does not give the employer the right to be abusive.

You quote from the FileMaker site:

"FileMaker Pro 5.5 brings instant productivity to today's business workgroups...

...quickly create solutions adapted to your business needs...

...enables powerful Internet and intranet ..."

Yes. FileMaker Pro 5.5 can bring "instant productivity" as a database application. Yes many solutions can be quickly adapted to the database end of your business needs. And yes, "powerful Internet and intranet" solutions are possible.

But, some things take greater knowledge and effort to achieve. Anyone in business who does not understand this about software should not be making software decisions.

Beginner was not the target. My advice about reading and learning is solid. I cannot force anyone to sit down and read the instruction manual.

[ February 14, 2002, 01:04 PM: Message edited by: Keith M. Davie ]

[Anatoli]

quote:

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Originally posted by Keith M. Davie:

Trevor, you wrote, "Oh, and I would have loved to see your site, but our corporate firewall does not allow access to that port."

Did you try clicking on the link

http://www.simplifyfm.com:591/

?

What happened when you did?

That link is my url and that port is my gateway. Has nothing to do with your corporate firewall. You should be able to receive it as you would any other website.

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Unfortunately -- it has. Ports above 80 are usually blocked in any Corporate firewalls! Believe me or not also FileMaker is blocking in their firewall port 591!!!!!

[Keith M. Davie]

Anatoli, you are a lesson a day! Thanks.

[Keith M. Davie]

Trevor, you wrote, "Oh, and I would have loved to see your site, but our corporate firewall does not allow access to that port."

Did you try clicking on the link http://www.simplifyfm.com:591/ ?

What happened when you did?

That link is my url and that port is my gateway. Has nothing to do with your corporate firewall. You should be able to receive it as you would any other website.

[Anatoli]

I have the same problem. If on the same machine is another web server on 80 you can use web server connector. If not, map WC to 80.

[Keith M. Davie]

"My only database experience is with Access, and that's a couple of years ago and not the same as FMP, ..."

I gave solid advice to Beginner. Including that her boss was abusive.

Does anyone read Dilbert? While this was going on, Dilbert was saying to his pointy-haired boss, "But I need this training.". The pointy-haired boss responds, "Isn't that another way of saying you're ignorant?"

Does anyone think my assessment of her boss was incorrect? Does anyone think my advice to Beginner (that she spend some time learning the subject) was out of line? I know I felt like I took some abuse for my answer.

[Jeff Spall]

Hi, yes it's common to lock down port 591 on a firewall. It's generally done by administrators who don't bother to read the registered port list. These guys also close 548, which I need to get adverts delivered to my file servers

A workaround is to set FileMaker to port 8080, the http proxy port, which is usually open.

regards, Jeff

PS, to test your FileMaker TCPIP/http interface, check out my post in " How do I see the web pages?! ". This might look too simple to bother with, but always troubleshoot one step at a time, building on stuff you are sure of.

[Anatoli]

RE: A workaround is to set FileMaker to port 8080, the http proxy port, which is usually open.

Just in some cases yes. But what if on 8080 sits visitor proxy? Will that collide?

Best is to have different workstation running just Unlimited on 80 or through WSC.

[scratchmalogicalwax]

RE: "I do have books to help me with, but I don't have the time to go through them thoroughly."

FMPro is quick to get started

but

I spent another 12 months to get to a standard where i consider myself able to develop all my (and my boss's, who is my brother which helps ) crazy ideas!!!

I used WSC to get round the 591 / firewall problem before then moving to lasso.

lasso is a rather expensive solution to this problem considering WSC is free.

Keep at it.......start small........and build on your successess!

[ February 18, 2002, 04:18 PM: Message edited by: scratchmalogicalwax ]