Color in Container has Odd Result

[comment]

When i paste that into Layout Mode.

OK, we have established that. But IIUC, K1200 says that even when he creates a single pixel rectangle in a paint application, copies it and pastes it into a container, it doesn't work properly. So what's the difference between creating the pixel in the app, or pasting "my" pixel there? That's where the missing link is.

[Raybaudi]

A square made in MS Paint, pasted on the layout, re-dimensioned to 1x1 pixel, copied and pasted in Browse Mode, mantains its FILL effect and enlarge adeguatally to fill all the container w/o trasparencies.

And it is the same if I paste directly that square into the container

So, what comes from another application, is the same as your pixel !

[comment]

Ah. So at least you people have a solution, without having to ask us Mac users to insert your pixels...

It seems the bug is that Filemaker picks up the anti-aliasing when copying its own native objects.

[K1200]

Comment,

I had to go back and retest to make sure what I said was accurate, but this is the case:

Using your testing.fp7 in an unmodified state, I can cut the contents of the container and it paste back in just fine.

If I immediately go into layout mode and paste the same contents of the clipboard out to the side of the container somewhere, it pastes as a single pixel.

If I pick up that pixel to the clipboard and go back into browse mode, it gives the transparency effect when pasted into the container.

Is it really the same pixel? Can we ever know what goes on inside XP? Or FileMaker?

[comment]

That makes sense (sort of...). When you paste the pixel in layout mode, it's still a native FM object (double-click it, and see you do NOT get the dialog you would get with a pixel pasted from 'outside'). So it's the same situation as if you'd created the pixel yourself, using FM rectangle tool.

If you go thru the paint app, you lose the 'nativity'.

[K1200]

A square made in MS Paint, pasted on the layout, re-dimensioned to 1x1 pixel, copied and pasted in Browse Mode, mantains its FILL effect and enlarge adeguatally to fill all the container w/o trasparencies.

BTW, I don't find this to be true on my PC. A single-pixel generated in MSPaint results in "Unknown Container Object" being displayed in the container -- and it won't paste onto the screen in layout mode. Larger sizes work given I adhere to the "Modulo N Rule" I mentioned previously.

[mr_vodka]

I am a bit confused here. If I create a brand new MS Paint file and PRIOR to savig it as anything, copy and paste the selected image, then paste into FM's container field, it works fine without the distortion.

However, if I save it as anything in MS paint, and with the same open window in paint, copy and paste again, it pastes as blank into the container field within FM.

Also, if I save it in whatever format from MS Paint and then 'insert image' into the container field, the image will be distorted again.

I am missing something...

[comment]

Hmmm... I wonder if the same is true when you open a saved file and select only a portion of a solid before copying (you need to make sure you are not selecting anywhere near the edges).

[Lee Smith]

That is a good point. When I looked at the pixel earlier, the outside edge reminded me of a selected object in PhotoShop.

[mr_vodka]

Hmmm... I wonder if the same is true when you open a saved file and select only a portion of a solid before copying (you need to make sure you are not selecting anywhere near the edges).

Hi Michael,

It pastes as blank into the container field when I do this.

[comment]

Thanks. So, it seems like a nasty combination of a Windows quirk (the clipboard gets anti-aliased in most circumstances) and FM's inability to render transparencies (again, on Windows only). Altogether, an extension of the bug described in the thread I linked to earlier.